Showing posts with label Preseason. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Preseason. Show all posts

Friday, August 31, 2012

NFL Preseason Notes

Here's a few stats I thought were interesting on the preseason results:

The Seahawks and Eagles were undefeated. The Bills, Dolphins, and Jets went winless (and the AFC East was 1-15 as a group).

Most points scoredFewest points scored
Seahawks 122Jets 31
Ravens 108Dolphins 43
Eagles 106Patriots 55
Steelers 104Bills 59
Lions 102Buccaneers60
Texans 101Chiefs 61
Jaguars 100Raiders 61
Most points allowedFewest points allowed
Bills 119Seahawks44
Cardinals(*)11949ers 53
Chiefs 116Giants 58
Jaguars 117Redskins59
Bears 99Eagles 60
Dolphins 96Cowboys 60

(*)Through 5 games

Highest net pointsLowest net points
Seahawks 78Bills -60
Eagles 46Jets -57
Redskins 39Chiefs -55
49ers 37Dolphins -53
Steelers 33Buccaneers-35

Comments:

  • Are the Seahawks a breakout team this year? Most points scored and fewest points allowed can't be a total coincidence. On the other hand, rookie QB Russell Wilson will almost certainly struggle when he starts to face defenses that are actually game planning for him, and not holding back on their playbook.

  • It's hard to come to any conclusion except that the Jets are in big trouble going into this season. If they average 8 points a game starting next week, Rex Ryan will be fired by November.

  • I wonder how much teams really hold back on what they can do in the preseason, just so it can be a "surprise" in the regular season. It seems to me this kind of tactic gets you one game (at best), and denies you opportunity to practice at full speed against a motivated opponent.

  • This sort of thing is particularly unconvincing in the case of teams like the 49ers, who struggled offensively last year. If they're struggling offensively in the preseason, my first thought is not "oh, they must be holding back".

  • Also, Joe Buck? Whoever told you that beard looks good on you was lying.

Tuesday, August 23, 2011

A poll, and some thoughts on the first half of the preseason

Sitemeter is saying traffic is picking up again, so I thought I'd put some actual new content up.

Does it matter to you if your team wins in the preseason?
Yes, absolutely. You play to win the game.
As long as the starters do OK, I'm happy.
No, I don't care. It's just a way for coaches to decide which players are worth keeping.
  
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Packers:

  • The first-string offense has been slow to get started the first couple games (3-and-out on their first drive week 1, punting twice in their first two drives week 2). Yeah, it's just the preseason, but it would be nice to see them get going a little faster.

  • The Packers have an embarrasment of riches at wide receiver and tight end. Given that they were already pretty deep, they're going to have to cut some pretty high-quality guys. Teams that are looking for some depth at wide out will want to be watching.

  • Graham Harrell, the Packers' 3rd-string quarterback, has had a pretty good preseason this year, which means the Packers will likely be inclined to trade backup Matt Flynn (whose rookie contract is up at the end of the 2011 season).

Cardinals:

  • Kevin Kolb looks like a definite improvement at quarterback (although a bit rusty). Of the 3 quarterbacks returning from last year, it looks very much like Max Hall is the odd man out; I'll be surprised if he doesn't get cut when it's time to get rosters down to 53 guys in a few weeks.

  • It was definitely a blow to lose second-round draft pick Ryan Williams for the year. But Alfonso Smith looked at least servicable in relief (12 carries, 39 yards and a TD) at the Packers. He's been on the Cardinals bubble for a while now (signed and cut last year, then resigned last January). He should have a chance to make the team if he can show some production in the last two preseason games.

  • I haven't seen any of the 49ers or Seahawks preseason games, but judging from the highlights and stat lines of Alex Smith and Tarvaris Jackson, it looks a lot like the NFC West will come down to the Cardinals and Rams this year.

Other teams:

  • Is there any way the Bengals' season isn't already over? I'll be surprised if Andy Dalton can lead them to more than 4 or 5 wins this year.

  • The odds are excellent somebody (49ers? Seahawks? Colts?!) will be willing to make a trade for Carson Palmer this season. If the Bengals are comitted to rebuilding, it's hard to see how getting what they can in trade is worse than forcing him into retirement.

  • The Chiefs look like they've really regressed this year. Again, I know it's still preseason, but in their first game against the Buccaneers, they didn't get a 3rd-down conversion until late in the 4th quarter. For an offense that struggled to move the ball last season, it's not a good sign.

  • A lot of people like what the Eagles have done in the off-season. But what I see is a bunch of guys who have never played together working under a rookie defensive coordinator. Given their performance against the Steelers last week, there has to be some real questions about what the 'Dream Team' can really do this year.

  • Is there any rational explanation for the fact that Alex Smith is still the designated starter for the 49ers?

Friday, September 3, 2010

NFL: Preseason Points

It's tough to make predictions based on preseason results in the NFL, but I was looking at the stats for total points scored, and saw some interesting results. A more careful analysis would break down points scored based on whether or not the first teams were in, but I'll leave that for someone else.

Points For

RankTeamPF
1Packers123
2Saints122
3Bengals112
4Bills111
29Jets57
30Falcons55
31Bears46
32Panthers33

Comments

  • The Packers and Saints are right back to their high-scoring ways

  • Perhaps the Bengals' biggest problems last season was an inability to score points. Maybe they've finally got that fixed?

  • It doesn't bode well for teams (like the Jets and Bears) that have high expectations for the season that they scored so few points in the preseason.

  • The Panthers scored just 2 touchdowns in the preseason (every other team scored at least 5). There is some good news for them, though, seen below.

Points Against

RankTeamPA
T1Ravens52
T1Panthers52
3Falcons57
T4Cardinals, Vikings59
28Broncos106
30Bills111
31Bengals112
32Colts160

Comments

  • Lost in the attention given their QB controversy, the Cardinals had a very good preseason on defense.

  • The Panthers had a very good preseason on defense too. But unless their offense gets going, they will likely still struggle to make it to 8 wins this year.

  • Bad news for the Bengals: getting the offense going isn't going to help if the defense suddenly becomes a revolving door.

  • The Colts defense really got smoked in the preseason (though not all of those 160 points is their fault, the special teams were giving up touchdowns too).

Net Points

RankTeamNet Pts
1Vikings34
2Ravens33
349ers32
4Packers31
29Seahawks-15
30Panthers-19
31Bears-38
32Colts-70
  • Some of the usual suspects at the top of the list. The Ravens and 49ers have to be the early favorites to win their respective divisions, I think.

  • I posted this a few times elsewhere, but it's worth repeating: if the Bears are mastering a Martz-style offense, they kept it well hidden in the preseason.

Sunday, August 31, 2008

Some Historical Analysis of Preseason Power Rankings

I took the preseason data going back to 2001 (the last year NFL.com has quarter-by-quarter scoring data for the preseason), and ran the four preseason ranking algorithms (listed below) on the scores for each season.

Using each power ranking as a means to pick the week one games (i.e. predict the team with the highest power ranking to be the winner), and then compared the pick to the actual game winners. Below is a table summarizing the results for the data:

Year Preseason
Week 3
Pre/half
Week 3
Preseason
Week 4
Pre/half
Week 4
20014-116-96-96-9
20027-97-99-78-8
20039-712-49-77-9
20046-1012-412-412-4
20056-106-107-97-9
200610-610-67-910-6
200710-68-810-610-6
Total52-5961-5060-5160-51

I was happier with these numbers before I ran the 2001 data set. Any way you look at it, it's a pretty sparse data set to be making strong predictions. But it does look like there's reason to think preseason power rankings are useful data.

I'll be doing a more extensive analysis later. And, of course, pick results for the 2008 data will be posted next week.

Friday, August 29, 2008

NFL Week 1 picks!

Update: Added line picks

The preseason is over!

Because APR is a feedback-based algorithm, and there is nothing to feed back before any games are played, there are no APR-based picks for week 1.

...Unless you use the preseason games. I hereby present picks for week one, based on preseason APR rankings. I've generated four power ranking tables, producing four picks for each game (detailed below). The power rankings are generated as follows:

  • Preseason Week 3: Rankings based on the final scores of all games up to and including week 3

  • Pre/Half Week 3: Rankings based on the half-time scores of all games up to and including week 3

  • Preseason Week 4: Final-score based rankings for week 4

  • Pre/Half Week 4: Half-time score based rankings for week 4

The games with the darker background are those that are not unanimous picks.

Game Preseason
Week 3
Pre/half
Week 3
Preseason
Week 4
Pre/half
Week 4
Line
WAS @ NYGWAS NYGNYGNYGNYG
CIN @ BALCIN CINCINCINCIN
NYJ @ MIAMIA MIAMIAMIANYJ
KC @ NE KC KC KC KC NE
HOU @ PITPIT PITHOUPITPIT
JAC @ TENJAC JACJACJACJAC
DET @ ATLDET DETDETDETDET
SEA @ BUFBUF BUFSEASEAPush
TB @ NO NO NO TB NO NO
STL @ PHIPHI PHIPHIPHIPHI
DAL @ CLEDAL DALDALDALDAL
CAR @ SD CAR CARSD SD SD
ARI @ SF ARI ARISF ARIARI
CHI @ INDIND INDCHICHIIND
MIN @ GB MIN MINGB MINGB
DEN @ OAKDEN OAKDENDENDEN


Are the Patriots really that bad?

The Patriots have had a forgettable preseason, finishing 0-4. What's worse, they were outscored 67-9 in the first half of play, presumably when the first- and second-string players are on the field. Unless they've been holding back in a big way, and not just with Tom Brady, it looks like the Patriots could be in for a major let-down this year. If the Patriots are anywhere near the level they played at last year, there's no way the Chiefs beat them in week 1 (right?). But it's not going to look good if KC is within a score late in the 4th quarter...

Are those other teams really that good?

On the other hand, APR (Pre/half Week 3) has the Bills, Dolphins, Panthers, Cardinals, Saints, Lions, Vikings, and Chiefs all in the top 10. Could all of these teams have had such a major turn around from last year? Could any of these teams have had such a major turn around from last year? Maybe the Pats fans' best hope is that the whole idea that preseason games mean something is just so much hot air. Tune in next week to find out...

Monday, August 25, 2008

NFL: Preseason Power, Week 3

Preseason Power Rankings?!

Yeah, preseason. I've done some (as yet unposted) analysis on preseason games that suggests there's at least some correlation between the way teams perform in the preseason and how they do (at least early) in the regular season.

I was going to do a more in-depth analysis of this during the summer, and present my findings, but computer troubles have derailed that project (for the moment, anyway).

Here's How it Works

Each team's power is computed, based on the APR algorithm. But instead of the game's final score, the game's half-time score is used, instead. Of course, this isn't the steadiest ground in the world: teams don't play for the win like they do in the regular season, and they certainly don't play to be ahead at half time like they play for the win.

On the other hand, good offenses score points, and good defenses get stops, even in preseason. I (somewhat arbitrarily) cut off the second-half results to winnow out the effects of teams playing their second-string and soon-to-be-cut players.

I plan to do a more careful (quarter by quarter and week by week) comparison of preseason to regular season results, but probably not until after the Super Bowl.

The Preseason Half-time Power Rankings for Week 3

RankPowerTeam
1) 1.5256 Buffalo Bills
2) 1.5124 Miami Dolphins
3) 1.4891 Carolina Panthers
4) 1.4540 Arizona Cardinals
5) 1.4314 San Diego Chargers
6) 1.4303 New Orleans Saints
7) 1.3582 Detroit Lions
8) 1.3417 Minnesota Vikings
9) 1.3386 Kansas City Chiefs
10) 1.2998 Seattle Seahawks
11) 1.2982 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
12) 1.2885 Jacksonville Jaguars
13) 1.2881 Oakland Raiders
14) 1.2704 Indianapolis Colts
15) 1.2559 Cincinnati Bengals
16) 1.2381 New York Giants
17) 1.2379 Pittsburgh Steelers
18) 1.2251 Denver Broncos
19) 1.2185 San Francisco 49ers
20) 1.2170 New York Jets
21) 1.2143 Philadelphia Eagles
22) 1.2135 Tennessee Titans
23) 1.2034 Houston Texans
24) 1.1895 Washington Redskins
25) 1.1790 Dallas Cowboys
26) 1.1714 Atlanta Falcons
27) 1.1596 Chicago Bears
28) 1.1476 Cleveland Browns
29) 1.1452 Saint Louis Rams
30) 1.0414 Green Bay Packers
31) 1.0365 Baltimore Ravens
32) 0.8355 New England Patriots